If you go and search “Golf swing hip and knee movement” on youtube you’ll come across so may conflicting ideas on the subject. No wonder people get confused about the golf swing.
I think a lot of coaches are confused about how things work because they are torn between what they have been taught by their mentors and what is going on in the world of golf instruction nowadays.
Heaven knows – I used to think the hips turned level when I was growing up playing the game.
This I think came about by coaches teaching a movement to the right and then to the left. Allowing the head and the hips to move laterally which allows a more level hip turn.
This kind of teaching is bad news if you really want to succeed at the game. In my world I never want the head to move until the ball has been struck. The hips help keep the head steady and centered throughout the swing if they work properly.
So let’s be absolutely crystal clear – the hips do not turn level!
They are on a tilted axis during the set-up, so they have to turn around that axis.
In a good hip turn during the backswing, the right hip moves higher than the left hip.
The best way to understand this is to combine the right shoulder and hip together. Both move in an upwards direction. The left shoulder and hip move in a downwards direction. In the backswing.
How do you know if you’ve moved too far, simple! you’ve moved your head.
During the start of the downswing we want the hips to slide – just a little – towards the target.
This allows the hands to move down on line from the top down to impact.
This little hip slide makes room for the right elbow and hands to move down towards the ball.
So if you can allow your right hip to move up and back – this then makes your tailbone actually move closer to the target
heres a video i did on it
Then slide your hips closer to the target during the initial movement coming down. You’ll be well on your way to achieving a good pivot and allowing your right elbow to move back down in front of your right hip and allow the hands to work properly.
Training our hands to work well in the swing is impossible if the pivot (our body) isn’t functioning well.
If the hips aren’t doing a good enough job it will probably cause the right elbow to collide with the right hip which will then prevent the hands from moving back down to the ball properly.
Also, if the right elbow and hip are on a collision course you’ll probably make compensatory movement and find a way to move your elbow around your hip.
Drill – watch the tailbone drill above and then combine it with allowing your right elbow to move back down in front of your right hip. Always in slow motion first however. Understand the move, then add speed and reps.
Try and feel the right hip move slightly higher than the left going back then slide the hips towards the target to start the move down. As they slide, allow the right elbow to come back down in front of the hip.
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The hips and knees
The correct knee movement will allow your hips to function properly.
We want the right hip to move higher than the left during the backswing so it’s important that we understand both knees roles.
To allow the hips to turn on a tilted angle, the left knee should flex more during the backswing and the right knee should straighten.
This is classic modern instruction v’s old instruction. I was taught when I was younger growing up in England that the right knee had to stay flexed. We have to turn our hips around a flexed right knee. I was told that on many MANY occasions.
The truth is (upon close observation) most of the best players of all time straightened their right knee a little.
Check out Mr Hogan (I don’t see him keeping his right knee flexed)..
I actually prefer how the older pros used to go about it. I believe they had it more figured out than we do today.
The problem with a flexed right knee is that the hips have to turn more level. This actually causes the hips to turn less and therefore the shoulders to turn less which generally produces a head movement to the right.
Gees, that sounds exactly like my old swing before I saw the light!! Back in the day…
Drill – In slow motion (you can do this at home without a club) start moving your hands (back, up and in) to imitate your backswing. As soon as your hands have moved a couple of inches, start allowing your right knee to straighten and your left knee to flex more. Try and get your left knee to move over the ball of your left foot. At the top, the left knee should have flexed several inches towards the ball of your left foot and your right knee should of straightened several inches.
How do you know if you’ve over done it? Your head has moved! We want to keep the head still.
If you can understand this idea of flexing and straightening your knees, you’ll be well on your way to an increased hip turn and a centered backswing.
If you have any questions or comments please feel free to leave a response below.
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James: Great Info! Thanks! I’m very tall at 6’10” and struggle with head movement constantly. What you’re saying is flex the left knee over the ball of the foot as much as possible without dipping the head down? Thanks!
Thanks Greg. Correct! The left knee flexing and right knee straightening allows the pelvis to turn on a tilted angle. This allows the spine to ’tilt’ ‘turn’ and ‘extend’ keeping the head steady.
I feel as though when my left knee flexes during the back swing, my body weight seems to stay on the left side. I thought the weight was supposed to shift to the right side during the backswing and shift back at and through contact. Any way to reconcile this?
The model I coach people is based on keeping the weight forward and flexing the left knee and straightening the right, as you say. A restriction based model is based around keeping right knee flexed and transferring weight – a NON-restriction based model isn’t. This may help https://www.jamesparkergolf.com/to-resist-or-not-to-resist/
I have taken the NON-restriction model to the range and course over the past week and a half. Huge difference in ball striking. Still need repetitions, but I already feel the improvement
Good man. Glad I can help..
Hi James
Having gone from 4.6 to 8.3 in just 2 years something has been going wrong to say the least! When looking at my swing recently I notice a slight shift of a few inches of the head away from the ball at takeaway and then another shift of about 6 inches down and further back during the downswing leaving me in a reverse c big time by impact. I have come to the conclusion that I need to start playing front foot golf to combat this awful move. Question: Given that I have had little success in curing this by simply thinking, “keep the weight on the front foot”, if I flex my left knee more than the right at address, might this be a way of stopping myself hitting from the top with the resultant massive move of the head down and back during the downswing?
Thanks
Hi Neil, It’s difficult to say without actually seeing your swing.
But, If your head is moving away from the target on the backswing it may be because of a lack of side bending (tilting) of your spine towards the target. Try moving your left (lead) shoulder down more, and literally tilting your spine towards the target more.
This will then put you in a more centered position at the top and make it easier to move onto your front side. If you’re head is still moving back on the downswing, I’d focus on your spine regaining its flex to start the downswing instead of going straight into a right tilt (which is what it sounds like you’re doing..)
Watch these two videos, and let me know how you get on.. I think the “step drill” may help you shift your weight to your front foot and also allow your head to feel as though it’s moving forward. Generally, to make a change we have to practice the opposite of our patterns. If your head is moving back, try and get your head moving forward while practicing the “step drill”.
http://www.jamesparkergolf.com/improve-your-timing-by-regaining-flexion/
http://www.jamesparkergolf.com/step-drill-to-improve-lead-side-impact-dynamics/
James
I understand that the left hip turns down and the right hip goes up but what do they do after the initial slide towards the target ?
Any help would be appreciated
Hi Randy,
As the hips have extended a little (bent backwards) to get to the top – they initially bend forward, sway and rotate.
So I’m assuming that after the slide towards the target they rotate opposite the backswing? Left hip goes up and the right hip works down or do they turn more level ?
Exactly! Left tilt on way back, right tilt on way down.
Hi James,
I’ve watched many PGA golfers on their swings, and realized that when they start the downswing, the left knee moves first toward the target, dragging the hips and shoulders and arms. So what causes the movement of the left knee in the downswing, is it just release spontaneously by the tension between the muscles or those golfer just do it intentionally?
Thank you!
Hi Alice, thanks for visiting my blog.
The lead knee movement is caused by the pressure shifting from the trail foot to the lead foot. This actually starts to happen before the backswing is completed in good swings. More specifically, into the lead toes/ball of the foot.
Thank you James, it helps !